No More ''Sticky" Console!

ARIVERA · 06-14-2008, 07:48 PM

Hi, wanted to share with you some pics and info on how my shift panel, AC panel, and mirror triangle covers turned out after removing that unknown sticky stuff

.

I started by removing the panels. I layed them out on a working table preparing myself for a very messy task. I started by spraying Night Lifes's method OVEN CLEANER! The oven cleaner did remove all the sticky ashphalt stuff, but not quick enough. I then began experimenting with other sprays but nothing would remove this stuff quick enough and without the mess. I then tried "Soot out glass & Surface Cleaner, WOW!

it worked instantly. I sprayed on and wiped off and with out the gooey mess. After cleaning all the panels I then wiped them off with denatured alcohol. The last step was to spray the panels with black paint. I used a product called SEM Color Coat. I applied three light coats and ended up with a smooth, low sheen finish. It took me about 1.5 hours from start to finish.

I purchased the Soot Out last year at Walgreens for $4.99 and the SEM Color Coat was purchased at Paint World, New Haven, CT. I had the can from a past door panel project. The pics don't really show how great the console came out, but beleive me it looks great!! I hope this is of help, comments and suggestions appreciated!

Pic #1 and #10 have the gooey stuff on it.

I just realized I should have posted this on the work shop thread, sorry, newbie!

Alex

Dmitri · 06-14-2008, 08:18 PM

You are a brave soul, experimenting on your car with oven cleaners. Thanks for the info though, it will be greatly appreciated around these parts.

Saint Bastage · 06-15-2008, 04:20 AM

Great job Alex. People are always looking for the "best" way to do this. Sounds like you've found it.

Moderator, Please relocate this thread to the workshop

Night Life · 06-15-2008, 08:31 AM

Nice write up and good job buddy looks fantastic I will let others know of your spray that you used

Although sales of oven cleaners are going to go way down...

ARIVERA · 07-11-2008, 04:09 PM

Hi guys, while I had the steering cover apart I decided to remove the gooey stuff since it's so easy to remove now.

Pic #1-#5 w/gooey stuff

Pic#6 sprayed the "Soot Out Cleaner"

Pic#7 wiped off, no mess

Pic#8-10 completely finished did not have to spray any dye. Took me 20 minutes from start to finish.

This stuff really works!

Alex

Jack Russell Racing · 10-01-2008, 07:21 AM

Yes, indeed the over cleaners do work. One issue to keep in mind however, is that when you clean the air vents, the white arrows will be stripped off. In terms of Ferrari parts, this is sadly a very common situation.

For F355 owners, we actually sell a very nice replacement panel for the HVAC control unit, and refer many of our customers to a fellow tifosi for his refinishing services. You can find his contact information (Robbie) in this link, toward the bottom:

http://www.ricambiamerica.com/produc...ucts_id=261153

Robbie can refinish individual F355 switches, the panels, 348 panels, door handles, etc. etc. and does a beautiful job.

Saint Bastage · 10-01-2008, 09:20 AM

Hi Daniel and welcome to the forum... Nice to see you here. You find less traffic but better personalities over here. Looks like you've been registered for a while but have not checked in.

To those that are not yet aware...Daniel (Jack Russell Racing) is a Fellow Ferrari enthusiast, owner of the mighty 348, and a parts magician. A good friend to have indeed.

GPGardin · 10-15-2008, 03:59 PM

After reading Arivera's great work, I tried the same.

As we have no Walgreens in Canada, I use a soot remover for glass on fireplace doors. This is not a spray, so I brushed it on and waited.
While this did work better than the Easy Off ( tried it too ) , it still to a bit of scrubbing. Waiting longer did not help.

In the end I scrubbed out the stuff and coated with SEM Trim Black.
The finish is great - the solvent smell of the stuff is HORRIBLE!

The steering wheel covers, central covers and ashtray are done. The ashtray did not have a mark on it - but I wanted it to match. I am pleased even if it did take longer than I wanted.

One more job done - only 12 or so left on the list ( for now)....

Greg

ARIVERA · 10-15-2008, 05:48 PM

Hi Greg,

I glad it worked out for you. The "Soot Out" works great and very quick. If you have anymore of the sticky stuff to remove I can check with Walgreens if they still have this product and shoot it out to you in Canada.

Alex

GPGardin · 10-15-2008, 06:08 PM

Thanks for the offer Alex. I do not know how difficult it is to ship chemicals across the border. I am in this industry and the paperwork for commercial goods is a bit much.

I drive down to the Detroit area for work fairly regularly so I will get some on my next trip.

I made the incorrect assumption that all soot removers should be the same. Otherwise I would have gotten some before.

The SEM paint is very good. As painting plastic can be tricky, I was glad you posted the paint type.

Best Regards,
Greg

50hdmc · 10-19-2008, 07:29 PM

...I just finished using oven cleaner on my door handles and it really was quite quick and easy....of course mine were so bad that when I used the handle, I had a handful of black (goo, ink) on my hands

ARIVERA · 10-20-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 50hdmc

...I just finished using oven cleaner on my door handles and it really was quite quick and easy....of course mine were so bad that when I used the handle, I had a handful of black (goo, ink) on my hands

Hi, I tried the oven cleaner but I could not stand the smell or the black ink on my hands. The "Soots Out" was oderless and not as messy and most importantly it was quick!

Alex

GPGardin · 12-07-2008, 02:53 PM

When stripping the sticky stuff, the white indicators for open / closed also disappear on the vents.
While these are not really necessary they were part of the original so I really wanted them back.

Enter my wife the scrap-booker. While she does not see the point in the indicators ( orf the Ferrari for that point - but that is a whole different thread.....) , she did make the dots.

The full circle is easy. A normal sized hole punch ( 1/4" ). The other was a bit tougher. We went to a craft store and bought a hole punch with a number of sizes. The 3/16" left enough around the edge. Getting it centered was the tough part.

I think it was best when we made the 3/16" center hole, the punched out the 1/4" circle to complete.

Peeling the paper off of the back of the sticker without wrinkling was not great - especially without fingernails ( guitarists know what I mean ).

Lastly, sticking them in the correct spot on the vent was tough. We certainly did not get these perfect - neither the paint or the dots but the end result is many orders of magnitude better than before and frankly, if I would have spent the amount of money for new vents as the Ferrari dealer quoted - well, I would be living in my car now.

Greg

tc348 · 12-11-2008, 07:24 AM

I have been trying to find soot out and have determined that it is no longer made. Has anybody found a suitable alternative.

ARIVERA · 12-12-2008, 03:22 PM

TC348,
Google Sootout.com and it will take you to different sites of who has it available. One place is in Amazon.com. If you can't find it let me know and I will look further for you.

Alex

Gcalo · 12-12-2008, 03:41 PM

Yes, Alex,

"Stick with it and you will be successful!

Bart · 12-13-2008, 08:52 AM

Amazon is out of it. Help. Is there any replacement?

ARIVERA · 12-13-2008, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

Amazon is out of it. Help. Is there any replacement?

Don't know of any replacement. I will let you know if I find it or a replacement.

Alex

tc348 · 12-19-2008, 04:53 AM

How do you get the grill or vents out of the dash to redo them? Do they pop out or is it necessary to take part of the dash out? Any tips would be appriecated.

GPGardin · 12-19-2008, 01:17 PM

The site club 348 has some great info on it. This is where I found out how to remove. Direct link below.

This took about 3 minutes to remove the vents.

http://www.club348.com/technical/Tech/348.html#Console

Greg

06-14-2008, 08:18 PM	#2
Dmitri Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern Illinois Ferrari Life Posts: 1,044	You are a brave soul, experimenting on your car with oven cleaners. Thanks for the info though, it will be greatly appreciated around these parts. Breck

06-15-2008, 04:20 AM	#3
Saint Bastage Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Essex Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 1,808 Name: Lane	348 sticky surface fix Great job Alex. People are always looking for the "best" way to do this. Sounds like you've found it. Moderator, Please relocate this thread to the workshop Lane 348ts SS #64, Nero on Nero

06-15-2008, 08:31 AM	#4
Night Life Owner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Regina, Canada Ferrari Life Posts: 2,084 Name: Roberto Giannini	Nice write up and good job buddy looks fantastic I will let others know of your spray that you used Although sales of oven cleaners are going to go way down... Night life........ain't a good life........but it's my life -- Willy Nelson

10-19-2008, 07:29 PM	#11
50hdmc Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Michigan Ferrari Life Posts: 39	Oven Cleaner ...I just finished using oven cleaner on my door handles and it really was quite quick and easy....of course mine were so bad that when I used the handle, I had a handful of black (goo, ink) on my hands

12-07-2008, 02:53 PM	#13
GPGardin Owner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southwest Ontario, Canada Ferrari Life Posts: 179	Replacing the dots.... When stripping the sticky stuff, the white indicators for open / closed also disappear on the vents. While these are not really necessary they were part of the original so I really wanted them back. Enter my wife the scrap-booker. While she does not see the point in the indicators ( orf the Ferrari for that point - but that is a whole different thread.....) , she did make the dots. The full circle is easy. A normal sized hole punch ( 1/4" ). The other was a bit tougher. We went to a craft store and bought a hole punch with a number of sizes. The 3/16" left enough around the edge. Getting it centered was the tough part. I think it was best when we made the 3/16" center hole, the punched out the 1/4" circle to complete. Peeling the paper off of the back of the sticker without wrinkling was not great - especially without fingernails ( guitarists know what I mean ). Lastly, sticking them in the correct spot on the vent was tough. We certainly did not get these perfect - neither the paint or the dots but the end result is many orders of magnitude better than before and frankly, if I would have spent the amount of money for new vents as the Ferrari dealer quoted - well, I would be living in my car now. Greg Attached Images "The ride is the reason. The destination is just the excuse! " - Mr. Joe Katz

06-14-2008, 07:48 PM	#1
ARIVERA Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethany Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 57	No More ''Sticky" Console! Hi, wanted to share with you some pics and info on how my shift panel, AC panel, and mirror triangle covers turned out after removing that unknown sticky stuff . I started by removing the panels. I layed them out on a working table preparing myself for a very messy task. I started by spraying Night Lifes's method OVEN CLEANER! The oven cleaner did remove all the sticky ashphalt stuff, but not quick enough. I then began experimenting with other sprays but nothing would remove this stuff quick enough and without the mess. I then tried "Soot out glass & Surface Cleaner, WOW! it worked instantly. I sprayed on and wiped off and with out the gooey mess. After cleaning all the panels I then wiped them off with denatured alcohol. The last step was to spray the panels with black paint. I used a product called SEM Color Coat. I applied three light coats and ended up with a smooth, low sheen finish. It took me about 1.5 hours from start to finish. I purchased the Soot Out last year at Walgreens for $4.99 and the SEM Color Coat was purchased at Paint World, New Haven, CT. I had the can from a past door panel project. The pics don't really show how great the console came out, but beleive me it looks great!! I hope this is of help, comments and suggestions appreciated! Pic #1 and #10 have the gooey stuff on it. I just realized I should have posted this on the work shop thread, sorry, newbie! Alex Attached Images Last edited by ARIVERA; 06-14-2008 at 08:05 PM. Reason: Changed pic

07-11-2008, 04:09 PM	#5
ARIVERA Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethany Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 57	"No more sticky steering cover" Hi guys, while I had the steering cover apart I decided to remove the gooey stuff since it's so easy to remove now. Pic #1-#5 w/gooey stuff Pic#6 sprayed the "Soot Out Cleaner" Pic#7 wiped off, no mess Pic#8-10 completely finished did not have to spray any dye. Took me 20 minutes from start to finish. This stuff really works! Alex Attached Images Last edited by ARIVERA; 07-11-2008 at 04:11 PM. Reason: added info

10-01-2008, 07:21 AM	#6
Jack Russell Racing Owner Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Ferrari Life Posts: 519	Yes, indeed the over cleaners do work. One issue to keep in mind however, is that when you clean the air vents, the white arrows will be stripped off. In terms of Ferrari parts, this is sadly a very common situation. For F355 owners, we actually sell a very nice replacement panel for the HVAC control unit, and refer many of our customers to a fellow tifosi for his refinishing services. You can find his contact information (Robbie) in this link, toward the bottom: http://www.ricambiamerica.com/produc...ucts_id=261153 Robbie can refinish individual F355 switches, the panels, 348 panels, door handles, etc. etc. and does a beautiful job.

10-01-2008, 09:20 AM	#7
Saint Bastage Owner Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Essex Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 1,808 Name: Lane	Hi Daniel and welcome to the forum... Nice to see you here. You find less traffic but better personalities over here. Looks like you've been registered for a while but have not checked in. To those that are not yet aware...Daniel (Jack Russell Racing) is a Fellow Ferrari enthusiast, owner of the mighty 348, and a parts magician. A good friend to have indeed. Lane 348ts SS #64, Nero on Nero

10-15-2008, 03:59 PM	#8
GPGardin Owner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southwest Ontario, Canada Ferrari Life Posts: 179	Not all Soot removers are the same After reading Arivera's great work, I tried the same. As we have no Walgreens in Canada, I use a soot remover for glass on fireplace doors. This is not a spray, so I brushed it on and waited. While this did work better than the Easy Off ( tried it too ) , it still to a bit of scrubbing. Waiting longer did not help. In the end I scrubbed out the stuff and coated with SEM Trim Black. The finish is great - the solvent smell of the stuff is HORRIBLE! The steering wheel covers, central covers and ashtray are done. The ashtray did not have a mark on it - but I wanted it to match. I am pleased even if it did take longer than I wanted. One more job done - only 12 or so left on the list ( for now).... Greg "The ride is the reason. The destination is just the excuse! " - Mr. Joe Katz

10-15-2008, 05:48 PM	#9
ARIVERA Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethany Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 57	Hi Greg, I glad it worked out for you. The "Soot Out" works great and very quick. If you have anymore of the sticky stuff to remove I can check with Walgreens if they still have this product and shoot it out to you in Canada. Alex

10-15-2008, 06:08 PM	#10
GPGardin Owner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southwest Ontario, Canada Ferrari Life Posts: 179	I'll import on my next trip south of the border Thanks for the offer Alex. I do not know how difficult it is to ship chemicals across the border. I am in this industry and the paperwork for commercial goods is a bit much. I drive down to the Detroit area for work fairly regularly so I will get some on my next trip. I made the incorrect assumption that all soot removers should be the same. Otherwise I would have gotten some before. The SEM paint is very good. As painting plastic can be tricky, I was glad you posted the paint type. Best Regards, Greg "The ride is the reason. The destination is just the excuse! " - Mr. Joe Katz

12-11-2008, 07:24 AM	#14
tc348 Owner Join Date: Nov 2008 Ferrari Life Posts: 6	soot out I have been trying to find soot out and have determined that it is no longer made. Has anybody found a suitable alternative.

12-12-2008, 03:22 PM	#15
ARIVERA Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bethany Connecticut Ferrari Life Posts: 57	TC348, Google Sootout.com and it will take you to different sites of who has it available. One place is in Amazon.com. If you can't find it let me know and I will look further for you. Alex Last edited by ARIVERA; 12-12-2008 at 04:27 PM.

12-12-2008, 03:41 PM	#16
Gcalo Owner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Ramon, Calif Ferrari Life Posts: 3,617	Yes, Alex, "Stick with it and you will be successful!

12-13-2008, 08:52 AM	#17
Bart Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, Calif. Ferrari Life Posts: 1,651	Amazon is out of it. Help. Is there any replacement? 12 cylinders or walk

12-19-2008, 04:53 AM	#19
tc348 Owner Join Date: Nov 2008 Ferrari Life Posts: 6	How do you get the grill or vents out of the dash to redo them? Do they pop out or is it necessary to take part of the dash out? Any tips would be appriecated.

12-19-2008, 01:17 PM	#20
GPGardin Owner Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southwest Ontario, Canada Ferrari Life Posts: 179	Vent Removal The site club 348 has some great info on it. This is where I found out how to remove. Direct link below. This took about 3 minutes to remove the vents. http://www.club348.com/technical/Tech/348.html#Console Greg "The ride is the reason. The destination is just the excuse! " - Mr. Joe Katz

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